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Feature Article: The Great Divides in Systems Engineering

Systems Engineering News

  • 18th IEEE Requirements Engineering Conference (RE 2010)
  • Upcoming Submission Deadlines and Themes for INSIGHT
  • INCOSE eNote: News and Notes from the INCOSE Network
  • Systems Engineering Certification Tutorial Webinar
  • INCOSE Event Calendar
  • Theme issue: Domain-Specific Modeling in Theory and Application
  • INCOSE INSIGHT – October 2010, Vol 13 – Issue 3
  • INCOSE Webinar October 20

Featured Societies – TBD

INCOSE Technical Operations – Verification and Validation Working Group

Systems Engineering Software Tools News

  • Siemens PLM Software Launches Machine Design Solution

Systems Engineering Books, Reports, Articles and Papers

  • New Multi-Million Pound Partnership Aims to Grow Systems Engineering Expertise in the Construction Industry
  • System-of-Systems Engineering

Conferences and Meetings

Education and Academia

  • Two Research Fellow Positions on Model Checking at National University of Singapore

Some Systems Engineering-Relevant Websites

Standards and Guides

  • ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC7 Interim Meeting

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PPI News

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A Quotation to Open On

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‘Foe Hammer’ from an Electronista post, February 15, 2010

Feature Article

The Great Divides in Systems Engineering

Dr. Joseph Kasser DSc, CEng, FIET, CM, CMALT



Step outside systems engineering for a moment and look back into it. Range around the perspectives perimeter (Kasser, et al., 2009)and observe what you see from the different perspectives (Kasser and Mackley, 2008). I’ve been doing this for 15 years and have come up with and researched the following hard questions that nobody else seems to be tackling.

  • Why is there no universal agreed-to definition of systems engineering?
  • Why are there differing views on nature of systems engineering?
  • Why are there dichotomies on how to tackle the problems posed by system of systems, and complex systems? One group states that they are difficult problems that cannot be solved with current techniques while the other group just gets on with it without a fuss.
  • Why does systems engineering work well sometimes?
  • Why does systems engineering fail miserably (and expensively) other times?
  • Why is there no widely accepted body of knowledge for systems engineering?

From the generic systems thinking perspective, these types of questions tend to be posed by an observer looking into a discipline in its formative years. A discipline in this stage is characterized by

  • debates based on subjective opinions
  • participants talking past each other
  • a lack of listening
  • contradictory and confusing information
  • a number of myths

If systems engineering itself is considered as a system, then the parts can be aggregated in several ways and the following divisions show up.

  • Life cycle phase gap
  • Process-problem paradigms gap
  • Discipline-enabler paradigms gap
  • Systems thinking and non-systems thinking gap

Consider each of these divisions

Life cycle phase

Some systems engineers seem to have an understanding of the early stage systems engineering that takes place in Column A of the Hitchins-Kasser-Massie Framework (HKMF) for understanding systems engineering (Kasser and Massie, 2001; Kasser, 2007b, a). The majority however have no idea that column A even exists and don’t understand what happens in that column. The column A group tends to be the old timers; while the others tend to be those systems engineers educated in the last 20-30 years.

Process-problem paradigms

Some systems engineers are process-focussed others focus on identifying the correct problem and realizing the best solution achievable within the constraints that exist at the time. The process-focussed systems engineers‘ mantra is to apply the systems engineering process and all will be well. These are the ones who insist that organisations must modify themselves to follow a particular process. The others focus on the problem, identifying the best solution available given the constraints at the time and develop and then carry out a process to fit the situation.

Discipline-enabler paradigms

This is related to the process-problem gap. On one side, systems engineering is a [process] discipline, on the other side of the gap it’s an enabler. The discipline camp preach that systems engineering needs to widen its span to take over other disciplines while in the enabler camp, systems engineering is just a tool that can be used in all disciplines for tackling certain types of problems.

Systems thinking and non-systems thinking

This gap represents the camps that look outwards from systems engineering and those that can see systems engineering from both inside and outside. Those that can see systems engineering from outside tend to be systems thinkers who can view an issue from multiple viewpoints while the insiders tend to have a single viewpoint. The insiders generally exhibit the ‘biased jumper’ level of critical thinking (Wolcott and Gray, 2003) at least as far as systems engineering is concerned and also belong in the process paradigm. The outsiders generally also belong in the enabler paradigm.


Still with me? If you are then I have the following questions for you.

  1. Are you aware of these divisions?
  2. On which side of each of them are you?

Do you agree with this analysis? Let’s hear from you on the INCOSE discussion reflector. If you want more information, check out the papers on my web site.


  1. Kasser, J. E., A Framework for Understanding Systems Engineering, Booksurge Ltd, 2007a.
  2. Kasser, J. E., “A Proposed Framework for a Systems Engineering Discipline”, proceedings of The Conference on Systems Engineering Research, Hoboken, NJ, 2007b.
  3. Kasser, J. E., Hitchins, D. and Huynh, T. V., “Reengineering Systems Engineering”, proceedings of the 3rd Annual Asia-Pacific Conference on Systems Engineering (APCOSE), Singapore, 2009.
  4. Kasser, J. E. and Mackley, T., “Applying systems thinking and aligning it to systems engineering”, proceedings of the 18th INCOSE International Symposium, Utrecht, Holland, 2008.
  5. Kasser, J. E. and Massie, A., “A Framework for a Systems Engineering Body of Knowledge”, proceedings of 11th International Symposium of the INCOSE, INCOSE, Melbourne, Australia, 2001.
  6. Wolcott, S. K. and Gray, C. J., Assessing and Developing Critical Thinking Skills, 2003, http://www.wolcottlynch.com/Downloadable_Files/IUPUI%20Handout_031029.pdf, last accessed

Systems Engineering News

18th IEEE Requirements Engineering Conference (RE 2010)

By A Smit

RE 2010 took place from September 27 to October 1, 2010 in Sydney, Australia. When I was presented with the opportunity to attend this conference, I was more than happy to add one more continent to my list of overseas visits. The land down under has long been a favourite destination for many South Africans, many who have taken a one-way trip over the last two decades. Arriving in Sydney after a 12 hour plane trip, my only interest was to find the fastest transport and the shortest route to the hotel. After a good rest I donned my walking shoes and hit the road. What an experience! Sydney is indeed a beautiful city with lots of things to do and places to see. During my first two days I first did some scouting on the City Explorer bus tour and then, by foot, visited the Darling Harbour area, the Aquarium, the Foreshore Walk from Darling Harbour to Circular Quay, Circular Quay, the Botanical Gardens, the Opera House, various shopping centres (1st on the list was of cause the Apple Store) and of course a harbour cruise. The start of the conference actually came as somewhat of a relief to my aching feet.

D:\My Documents\My Pictures\2010_09_25_to_31_Sydney\Picture 185.jpg The conference started on Monday 27 September with four parallel tracks covering two workshops and four tutorials. On Tuesday another five workshops were presented in parallel tracks as well as another four tutorials in four parallel tracks. The last three days consisted of paper sessions and other special sessions as well as twelve very impressive and professional looking posters displayed in the hallway.

On Wednesday morning Mary O’Kane, NSW Chief Scientist and Engineer, gave the keynote on “Requirements Engineering for Expensive Technologies Which need to Operate in Underconstrained Policy Systems that are Interdependent with National and Regional Economies”. She highlighted the special challenges facing large renewable energy projects a time of great uncertainty about policies on climate change and emissions control.

The keynote on Thursday morning was given by Professor Al Davis, University of Colorado at Colorado Springs, USA on “Requirements: A Textbook Example of Goals Displacement”. He stressed that the goal of requirements engineering (or requirements management) is to increase the likelihood that the end product of the endeavour does in fact create value for stakeholders. Quoting from the abstract “Instead, we see displaced goals like: create a perfect software requirements specification (SRS); check an SRS for some combination of completeness, consistency, non-ambiguity, etc; automatically generate (or analyze) some formalized modelling notation; follow an onerous 20-step process; or automatically transform one modelling notation into another. Woefully few (although there are some terrific exceptions!) published papers connect the requirements process with its real goal: value creation.”

The keynote at the closing plenary on Friday was given by Graeme Simsion of Simsion & Associates on “Being Right Isn’t Enough”. The key message was that the greatest challenges in practical requirements engineering are psychological and political rather than technical and that the requirements engineer is quite often also communicator, interpreter, facilitator, conciliator, negotiator, salesman and sometimes counsellor.

The social events associated with this conference were something to remember. Firstly the welcome reception took place at the Opera Bar at……you guessed it, the Sydney Opera House. The conference banquette was an unforgettable harbour cruise dinner on the Blue Room departing from Star City Warf, Pyrmont.

Being the first IEEE RE conference that I attended, it was very apparent that the general attendance and the presentation of papers were predominantly from the software engineering industry. What was also surprising to see was the huge research component: nine research sessions presented compared to the five industry practice and experience sessions.

Current requirements engineering practices in my own environment were confirmed and renewed emphasis has been placed on spending enough time in doing RE and paying particular attention to requirements traceability. Some techniques that I want to investigated further is cognitive mapping and i* modelling. The most promising research papers were on automated requirements tracing and the most interesting were on linguistic analyses to improve requirements quality.

D:\My Documents\My Pictures\2010_09_25_to_31_Sydney\Picture 536.jpg In a fitting conclusion to a wonderful trip, I visited the Blue Mountains on my last day in Australia. Having walked down the Furber steps into the Jamison Valley beside Katoomba Falls, the near vertical (so it felt) train trip back up was awe inspiring.

Sitting on the plane on the long trip back home, I could not help but wonder why requirements engineering still seems to be so much of a stumbling block for the successful execution of projects if there is so much research going on. Are we really making sure that we tailor the breadth and depth of the RE effort to only that which adds value to our particular project? Do we really devote enough time to the RE effort or are we pressured into a rushed completion of specifications in order to get hardware and software that we can show for our effort? Are we meticulous enough with the wording of requirements and with traceability? Most importantly, do we do enough to train young practitioners in the ABC of RE to fast track them on the road to becoming proficient requirements analysts?

And O! Does the INCOSE RE working group and the IEEE cooperate at all on RE?

Upcoming Submission Deadlines and Themes for INSIGHT

INSIGHT is the newsletter of International Council on Systems Engineering. It is published four times per year (January, April, July, October). INSIGHT features status and information about INCOSE’s technical work, local chapters, and committees and boards. Additionally, related events, editorials, book reviews, trends, and how-to-do articles that are pertinent to the many aspects of a systems engineer’s job are also included, as space permits.

Upcoming submission deadlines and themes for INSIGHT

INCOSE eNote: News and Notes from the INCOSE Network

eNote is the electronic newsletter of INCOSE. Published every four to six weeks, eNote is a compilation of INCOSE news, event announcements, and items of interest for our members. Subscriptions to eNote are available to INCOSE members as part of their membership.

eNote features INCOSE information as well as notes from systems engineering and related fields. Questions and comments as well as submissions for future eNotes should be directed to the eNote Editorial Team.

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Systems Engineering Certification Tutorial Webinar

Beginning Thursday, October 7th 2010 and running through April 2011, the tutorial consists of 16 weekly sessions, held from noon to 1:30 p.m., Eastern Time USA, for up to 300 INCOSE and 250 NGC participants. There is no need to pre-register and no cost, just join in. The LiveMeeting sessions will be open 30 minutes before the start time. Prior to each session, participants are encouraged to read the sections and appendices of the SE Handbook to be presented. Course materials include the course schedule, tutorial slides (including PowerPoint Notes), sample questions, and prior-session audio and video recordings for later downloading if you miss a class.

For more information go to the INCOSE website.

INCOSE Event Calendar

German Chapter Annual Systems Engineering Conference (TdSE2010) Nov 10 – 12, 2010
INCOSE UK Annual Systems Engineering Conference (ASEC 2010) Nov 08 – 10, 2010
Cyber Security and Enterprise Architecture Conference hosted by Hampton Roads Area and ISSA-HR Nov 03 – 04, 2010
15th Annual INCOSE Region II Fall Mini-Conference Oct 30, 2010
First International Conference on Complex Systems Design and Management (CSDM 2010) Oct 27 – 29, 2010

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Theme issue: Domain-Specific Modeling in Theory and Application

The Journal of Software and Systems Modeling (SoSyM) invites original, high-quality submissions for its theme issue on “Domain-Specific Modeling” that is focused on topics related to DSM.

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INCOSE INSIGHT – October 2010, Vol 13 – Issue 3

The October 2010 INSIGHT is ready to view or download on INCOSE Connect.

Special Feature: INCOSE’s Twentieth Anniversary International Symposium

INCOSE Webinar October 20

Dr. Steven H Dam will give a presentation on “Building you Concept of Operations”. You will find a copy of the joining instructions on the INCOSE Connect website, in the Webinar Discussion Forum area: https://www.incose.org/forum/index.cfm?page=forum&forumID=8

Joining instructions are also posted in the INCOSE Product Area, within the webinar Archive folder.

Featured Society – TBD


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INCOSE Technical Operations

Verification and Validation Working Group



The BWG Charter is to promote practical application of systems engineering best practices and standards to the Verification and Validation Industry.


Chair: Ben Mancuso

Co-Chair: Bram Landtsheer (Acting)

Contact Ben.Mancuso@incose.org for additional information or to join this group.

Published Products

  • V&V Terminology (pending)
  • AFIS V&V Overview

Planned Work

  • Partnering with AFIS IVVQ WG
  • Partner with Requirements WG
  • Meeting Planned for April 2008
  • Partner with Risk WG
  • Partner with Lean SE WG


Microsoft Powerpoint  2008 International Workshop Verification and Validation WG Summary Presentation Size: 200K

Systems Engineering Software Tools News

Siemens PLM Software Launches Machine Design Solution

Siemens PLM Software is targeting manufacturers of machine tools and production machines with a new variation on its PLM platform that takes a systems engineering approach to facilitate design.

Mechatronics Concept Designer, based on the NX CAD software and Siemens Teamcenter PLM platform, delivers on the systems engineering approach by melding “voice of the customer” input and early requirements with a multi-discipline product definition that includes mechanical, electrical and software components.

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Systems Engineering Books, Reports, Articles and Papers

New Multi-Million Pound Partnership Aims to Grow Systems Engineering Expertise in the Construction Industry

Imperial College London and Laing O’Rourke have formed a new multi-million pound partnership that is developing an MSc course to help construction industry professionals adopt world class systems engineering techniques, it is announced today.

The Imperial and Laing O’Rourke partnership will focus on innovation in the systems engineering field, which looks at how complex engineering projects are designed and managed. Laing O’Rourke is the largest privately-owned engineering enterprise in the UK.

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System-of-Systems Engineering

The focus of Carnegie Mellon Software Engineering Institute (SEI) research in this area is on the ways in which the characteristics of systems of systems call for a transformation of system-of-system engineering practices. In particular, we see that the successful development of complex systems of systems requires a new set of concepts, a revised set of life-cycle activities, attention to the role of emergence, and the application of a different set of technologies and techniques.

One life-cycle phase we are looking at is requirements engineering. Our investigation tells us that techniques and approaches for requirements engineering in a system-of-systems environment are not well understood because

  • A system of systems is owned and evolved by different organizations.
  • System-of-systems constituents are at different points in their life cycles.

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Conferences and Meetings

NDIA 13th Annual Systems Engineering Conference

October 25-28, 2010, Hyatt Regency Mission Bay, San Diego, CA, USA

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Requirements Days 2010

October 26 – 28, 2010, Mϋnchen, Germany

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2010 Huntsville Simulation Conference (HSC2010)

October 26-28, 2010, Huntsville Marriott, Huntsville, Alabama, USA

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5th International Workshop on Enterprise Integration, Interoperability and Networking (EI2N’2010)

October 27-28, 2010, Hersonissou, Crete, Greece

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Complex Systems Design & Management 2010

October 27-29, 2010, Paris, France

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15th Annual INCOSE Region II Fall Mini-Conference

October 30, 2010, National University – La Jolla Campus, San Diego, CA, USA

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12th IEEE International High Assurance Systems Engineering Symposium (HASE 2010)

Co-Located with the 21st IEEE International Symposium on Software Reliability Engineering (ISSRE)

November 1-4, 2010, San Jose, CA, USA

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29th International Conference on Conceptual Modeling

1-4 November 2010, Vancouver, BC, Canada

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Seventh International Workshop on Web Information Systems Modeling (WISM 2010)

(Held in conjunction with ER 2010)

November 1-4, 2010, Vancouver, BC, Canada

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25th International Forum on COCOMO and Systems/Software Cost Modeling

November 2-5, 2010, University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA, USA

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2010 IITA International Conference on Control, Automation and Systems Engineering (CASE 2010)

Nov 7, 2010 – Nov 8, 2010. Taipei, Taiwan

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No Magic World Conference

November 7-10th, 2010, American Airlines Conference Center, Fort Worth, TX

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INCOSE UK Annual Systems Engineering Conference 2010 (ASEC10)

November 8-10, 2010, Heythrop Park Hotel, Chipping Norton, Oxfordshire, UK

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13th Brazilian Symposium on Formal Methods (SBMF 2010) http://www.ppi-int.com/newsletter/new.jpg

November 8th – 12th, Natal, Brazil

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SEPG Latin America 2010

November 10-12, 2010, Medellín, Colombia

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Association for the Advancement of Artificial Intelligence (AAAI)

Fall Symposium: Complex Adaptive Systems: Resilience, Robustness, and Evolvability

November 11 – 13, 2010, Arlington, VA

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5th Trends in Enterprise Architecture Research (TEAR2010) workshop

November 12, 2010 as part of the Enterprise Engineering Week at the Delft University of Technology, Delft, The Netherlands from the 9th of November to the 12th of November

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CMMI 10th Annual Technology Conference and User Group

November 15-18, 2010

Hyatt Regency Tech Center – Denver, Colorado, USA

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Third IEEE International workshop UML and Formal Methods

Held in conjunction with the 12th International Conference on Formal Engineering Methods, ICFEM 2010

November 16th, 2010, Shanghai, China

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5th International Forum on Engineering Education (IFEE2010) & European SDPROMO II Conference

November 23 – 25, 2010, Sharjah-Dubai, UAE, United Arab Emirates

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1st International Chemical and Environmental Engineering Conference 2010

November 26 – 28, 2010, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

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2010 International Conference on Computer and Software Modeling – (ICCSM 2010) http://www.ppi-int.com/newsletter/new.jpg

December 4-5, 2010, Manila, Philippines

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22nd International Conference Software & Systems Engineering and their Applications (ICSSEA 2010)

December 7-9, 2010, Paris, France

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National Institute of Technology – National Systems Conference 2010

December 10-12, 2010, National Institute Technology Karnataka, Surathkal, India

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ICISE 2010: International Conference on Intelligent Systems Engineering

December 18, 2010, Bangkok, Thailand

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ICECSE 2011 “International Conference on Electrical, Computer and Systems Engineering”

January 25-27, 2011, Dubai, United Arab Emirates

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INCOSE International Workshop 2011 (IW 2011) http://www.ppi-int.com/newsletter/new.jpg

January 29 – February 01, 2011, Hyatt Regency Phoenix, Phoenix, AZ, USA

Second International Conference on Exploring Services Sciences (IESS 1.1)

February 16-17-18, 2011, Geneva, Switzerland

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Second ACM/SPEC International Conference on Performance Engineering

(ICPE 2011)

March 14-16, 2011 Karlsruhe, Germany

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Design, Automation & Test in Europe

March 14-18, 2011, Grenoble, France

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26th Symposium On Applied Computing

March 21 – 25, 2011, Tunghai University, TaiChung, Taiwan

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Requirements Engineering Track – 4th Edition

part of the 26th ACM Symposium on Applied Computing

March 21 – 25, 2011, Tunghai University, TaiChung, Taiwan

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Requirements And Validation, Verification & Testing (ReVVerT 2011) http://www.ppi-int.com/newsletter/new.jpg

March 21-25, 2011 (one day), Berlin, Germany

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IWEI 2011 – The International Working Conference on Enterprise Interoperability

March 22-24, 2011, Stockholm, Sweden

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MoBE-RTES 2011 – 2nd IEEE Workshop on Model-based Engineering for Real-Time Embedded Systems (MoBE-RTES 2011)

Mar 28, 2011, Newport Beach, California, USA

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REFSQ 2011 – 17th International Working Conference on Requirements Engineering: Foundation for Software Quality

March 28-30, 2011, Essen, Germany

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MBT 2011 – Seventh Workshop on Model-Based Testinghttp://www.ppi-int.com/newsletter/new.jpg

April 2-3, 2011, Saarbrϋken, Germany

Satellite workshop of ETAPS 2011

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IEEE International Systems Conference

April 4-7, 2011, Montreal, Quebec, Canada

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Risk-Based Approaches to Major Decisions (Risk ’11)

May 13 – 14, 2011, Falmouth, Cornwall, United Kingdom

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SPICE 2011 – The 11th International SPICE Conference Process Improvement and Capability dEtermination http://www.ppi-int.com/newsletter/new.jpg

30 May – 1 June 2011, Dublin, Ireland

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Seventh European Conference on Modelling Foundations and Applications http://www.ppi-int.com/newsletter/new.jpg

6-9th of June, 2011, University of Birmingham, Birmingham, UK

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10th TTCN‑3 User Conference http://www.ppi-int.com/newsletter/new.jpg

June 7-9, 2011, Bled, Slovenia

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4th Symposium on Resilience Engineering http://www.ppi-int.com/newsletter/new.jpg

June 8-10, 2011, Sophia Antipolis, France

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FM 2011: 17th International Symposium on Formal Methods

June 20 – 24, 2011, Lero, Limerick, Ireland

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The 32nd International Conference on Application and Theory of Petri Nets and Concurrency (PETRI NETS 2011)

11th International Conference on Application of Concurrency to System Design (ACSD 2011)

June 20-24, 2011 Kanazawa Cultural Hall, Kanazawa, Japan

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INES 2011 – 15th IEEE International Conference on Intelligent Engineering Systems 2011

June 23-25, 2011, Poprad, High Tatras, Slovakia

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SoSE 2011 – 2011 6th International Conference on System of Systems Engineering (SoSE)

Jun 27 – 30, 2011, Albuquerque, New Mexico, U.S.A

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19th IEEE International Requirements Engineering Conference

August 29 – September 2, 2010, Trento, Italy

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Education and Academia

Two Research Fellow Positions on Model Checking at National University of Singapore

Highly motivated applicants are being sought to work on developing model checking techniques. The postdocs will work with the software engineering and formal methods group at National University of Singapore on further developing the PAT toolkit (http://pat.comp.nus.edu.sg).

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Some Systems Engineering-Relevant Websites


Standards and Guides

ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC7 Interim Meeting

Registration is now open for the interim meeting at https://www.fbcinc.com/nist_ISOSC7/atreg1.aspx

It is essential that all participants register at least four weeks before the meeting date: The deadline for registration is Monday, October 4, 2010. Advance registration is required for all participants, both US and non-US. Unregistered persons arriving at NIST cannot be admitted.

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